My understanding is quads will give you more speed in the less than ideal conditions. Twin fins will also do the same thing, while the thruster gives you more pivot.

I'm not an expert though, so I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken.

I like this approach. Making those times was often difficult for me. Two thumbs up!

Believe this is the video. About 1:35 mark.

If you're finding the knee wants to move to the outside of the arm it may be you are not arching enough per pop up. Try to make sure your locking those elbows out as straight as possible before performing the pop up.

There is a video in the learning were Ant mentioned the same thing and if I remember correctly that was basically Clayton's explanation of it. Don't have time to look for that specific video at the moment though as I'm at work...and they are actually making me do things today.... the nerve of these people!

Well Ant I'm sorry to see your leaving. It Must be something you really want though,. I don't know what would be able to drag me away from a job that involved surfing and helping other to learn to surf, so I can only imagine it must be something your heart really wants. Hope everything works out for the best for you. You will be missed, but unless Clayton refilms everything you will live on in the OMBE community forever.

Excited to see what comes next for OMBE.

Scott Wagenblast I can do it on the small banks my park has. I've watched soo many how to videos on it. But standing on top of the 4 foot incline, with my head another 6 feet over that and thinking I'll break something makes me chicken out everytime.

I literally just need someone to come hold my hand for 2 or 3 attempts and tell me if I'm doing it right. Unfortunately having just moved here recently I don't yet have any skate friends that would do it with me. And I've seen this coach there teaching kids on random mornings when I go. If I have the pay the dude for a day till I get it so be it.

Feel like once I'm over that fear I'll have speed for everything else I need/want to learn. If he is good maybe he can help me learn grinds on the coping too.

Graham Marsden so I actually decided to email a skateboarding coach In the area to inquire about them teaching me to drop in. I've seen them at the park teaching kids before and thought I should do that and just never did.

Being older and fragile it's just not worth me breaking a wrist or leg and being out of work to learn. So I'm willing to pay some dude to basically come hold my hand till I get it down. Have a phone call with them tomorrow to discuss it.

Feel like if I can get the drop in learned the rest should be fairly easy. See how It goes...

Graham Marsden I can drop in on the bank. It's when I stand up on the coping and look down I just can't bring myself to do it. I fear breaking my arm or head or something.

Picture is good enough. I'll give it a go tomorrow if it's not raining here. I really just need to grow a pair and learn to drop in. Standing up there though it just scares me too much.