This is the line in my mind I think I'd like to work up to.

1st turn (frontside) basically as it is now around corner to gain speed.

2nd turn (backside) longer and drawn out, with maybe a cheeky grind on the coping if I can work up the nerve and skill to get there.

In my head, that's what I would think would look and flow best with the bowl and the line I'm taking/trying to take.

But your comment confuses me because I personally feel like the frontside turn is the better of the 2 I've been doing. Maybe I'm wrong or just confused. Both happen often!

So you think the first turn is too wide? Cause the first one is the frontside turn, unless I'm confusing the two.

Or are you saying the 2nd turn (what I was considering the backside turn) too wide?

Honestly, the second turn I feel like would look and feel better if I could hold longer to get around the corner of the bowl. Or at least that's what I was planning on working towards.

Thanks....but not quite yet. Amazing will be IF I can get that 2nd turn up onto the coping AND grind it around the corner of the bowl.

But now that the figure 8 happens more consistently I can start working my way on up there.

Scott Wagenblast yea. I miss Jersey waves. Used to surf the south jetty in Brigantine all the time. I do surf more here cause the water is warmer and I work 3 blocks from the ocean so that's nice. The waves are much weaker and good less often though.

Pretty sure the ocean floor shelf here extends much further off shore making the waves weaker and less size.

Win some lose some I guess.

Scott Wagenblast cherry Grove is my usual surf spot down here. This is what our forecast looks like 75% of the year.

Graham Marsden this is a screen capture only a few frames after the one you took. Watching the video it doesn't seem like my body position or the bend in my elbow changes much in the between frames. So it really feels like I'm in a similar position.

Again, I may not be. It's hard to tell cause it happens In maybe 3 or 4 frames of my cell footage and if a view from behind, plus I'm wearing all black which makes it even harder to distinguish my body characteristics. It's my work uniform and I don't get to pick color, though I probably would have chosen black anyway.

I'm for sure interested in getting a new angle of it now though to find out for sure. I would love to find a way to hang the camera over the coping to get a true front on shot without running into my phone.

Maybe I'll rig something up this weekend to see if I can make that happen.

Graham Marsden I think it's more so the camera angle than anything else. Again, I could be wrong cause I don't have that angle of myself.

Graham Marsden this is Ant doing the same cutback in the bonus video (45mins or so) at the end of the cutback section.

This is what it feels like I'm doing by being in that hunched or leaning position.

Now I'm super curious to get film from a different angle to see if this is actually what I'm doing or not.

I don't know how I could set the camera up to film it this way yet though. At the time I go to the park no one else is there to video for me, and as I mentioned I use to traffic cone with the top cut off that holds my phone but it won't allow the phone to angle down to get a closer perspective.

Might have to invest in a tripod or selfie stick to get a clip.

I think it may look more behind me because of the camera angle than it actually is. I can't film from a different angle though cause I use a traffic cone, that the skaters ollie over, to hold my phone, and filming from this point is the only way to get the 2 turns into frame since I can not angle the phone down or anything.

I can try to maybe film just the second turn from a different angle to confirm. But it never feels like it's behind me. I really tried today to be conscious of my arms because I wanted to stop dropping them to my knees before the turns.

As to the being hunched over I don't know if that is fixable because I have to lean so hard toe side to be able to make that cutback turn.

I was really focused on trying to airplane bank to get my head lower in order to make the 2 turns In side a tight bowl. I feel like as soon as I hit the drain if I'm not completely toe weighted I won't fit it in.

I can't say that with 100% certainty for now but when I watch the full clips, anytime I am more upright I can't get the 2nd turn in and hit that blue ledge.

I will attempt to film a different angle to give a different perspective of it though.