John Kuras Learn something new every day. 😁 Thanks for that. 

Way to go, well done! I think once you got it locked in, going closer to the coping is going to be easy for you.

Hey Libby, thank you, much appreciated 😀 The head is a great place to practice so keep on keeping on. 

What might also help while you're mind surfing is to imagine the feeling of how you drive your arm forward through the turn... Like you want to reach back and touch the foam and really push that hand there. 

If you stand and go through the motions and you get to the part where you turn left... when you think you at the max of your twist... push your arm forward more, even if it is over exaggerated... It may help with muscle memory when surfing. 

I remember at the time of the turns, I was just wanting to push my right arm as far around as I thought I could. Almost as if my hand, was pulling my body around.

let me know if that doesn't make sense, and I will attempt an explanation in another way 😂

It never looks pretty in the beginning... until one day. 😉

John Kuras hmmm... that also makes sense... I had not considered it that way. Now I am curious as to which is the "norm"...🤔 lol

I think if you look to where you want to go at the bottom of the turn you will find your turn is faster which will help you lean more... More speed, more lean. You really good at generating speed with your compressing and extension, and then almost come to a stop on the peak of the second turn... You want the speed so your feet push into the board at that angle otherwise you wont feel comfortable leaning. 

Centrifugal force at the angle you want to lean needs to be greater than gravity, with your head the pivot point. Think of the force pushing from your head down to your feet, which keeps them attached to the board which keeps it attached to the wall at that angle.

I know it is easier said than done... I am going to say it anyways... Look where you want to go, and trust your body to do the rest.

It's a mental game.

John Kuras Ah yes... We are talking different things 😆 your front side turn I call back side turn and what you say is back side I call front side... 

So to get on the same page... I am referring to your second turn. Your first turn is amazing...  Your second turn you looking at the coping for quite long which is causing the wide turning circle.

If you trying keep a long turn then it makes sense why it is that way 😀

I call your first turn backside because you are turning to your back (back is facing the flats), and the second turn I call front side because you are turning to your front (chest is facing the flats).

Do you ride a longboard or a shortboard? If you had to pop like that on a shortboard you would be nose riding big time, and is actually too far for a longboard even 😉

You step quite far forward with your back leg to start with which moves you forward a lot. Step so your back foot is where your knees are when lying down, and then walk up from there.

Hey John, when you doing your front side turn, it looks you keep looking to your left which keeps your turn wide... I think if you look down to the bottom of the ramp where you want to go sooner your turn will be tighter. 

You doing it great on the back side turn, yet the front you have a much wider turning circle... Stop looking at the rail 😉

Way to go Graham... OMBE is EEEEverywhere 😂

Thanks Hadyn, they kind of felt the way they looked... Decided that was my last wave for the day... End on a great feeling😀

This is in Jeffreys Bay. The surf spot is called The Point

Was such a fun wave. Thanks Clayton!