Graham Marsden I've made the mistake of being too back foot heavy before. Fell and hurt my hip so bad I couldn't walk for weeks. I'm very very conscious trying not to do that. Too old and fragile to make that mistake again.

Tried this line a few times this morning.... it was not pretty...my backhand turn is definitely something I need to work on more.

One of my goals moving forward is to try to spend equal amounts of time working on both turns even if doing it separately at first until I can link them together.

I do have to say that 45 mins video of Ant doing this turn in the cutback section really feels like it helped.

The 1st turn in these clips felt so much faster than anything I've done before and it felt like all I did was a "gentle small ball toss to a 3 year old" and open my thumb.

It really felt effortless and watching it back it feels and looks so fast at least to me.

So excited to get back in there tomorrow if it doesn't rain and start working on the 2nd turn more. Yeeewwww

Yea Coryn mentioned that and I said I would give a try tomorrow if I skate. I've not tried that line yet.

I am fairly sure I'm not back foot heavy on the second turn as my back foot is usually the first one off when I bail. That would be harder to do if I was weighted on the back foot, the board would want to do a kickturn.

The next to last one my front foot actually slipped forward and my heel caught the edge which is why I slipped out and the nose goes down with the tail coming up. If I had been back foot heavy there the result would have probably been the board flying up, instead of the tail coming up.

I did try the opposite end of the bowl, with no hip and therefore no second curve to turn off its actually harder. It would be Like trying to do a cutback using corners 1 and 2 in the OMBE bowl except I approach a vertical wall instead of a corner.

Coryn Daniel give it a go tomorrow if I get to skate.

Are you suggesting more of this line?

If so I'd really have to give it a try to see if I could do it as I've never attempted it. I've been trying to use that little hip to help guide and push me through the cutback portion. It's the only hip in the bowl and honestly I've just never thought to give it a go that way.

Don't know. Never tried it.

Scott Wagenblast I've been on a long journey myself. Always loved the ocean, loved bodyboarding, but when my crew of friends stopped doing it I thought I'll learn to surf. Been about a 20 year journey. I used to live 1.5 hours from the nearest beach, so I'd surf maybe 3 or 4 times a year, IF the waves were good, and on a weekend, or a day i could get off from work.

Now I live 15 mins from the beach, work 3 blocks from the ocean and the water in south carolina is always "warm" so I can surf much more often than I used to. Then I found OMBE which has helped A LOT!

I also happen to luck into that new skate bowl built close enough for me to use before work after dropping my kids off at school. We are supposed to get a wave garden surf pool in a year or 2 so I can surf even more then and get some actual water footage when it happens and hopefully really improve.

The skate training though I feel is making the biggest difference for me. Mainly because I can go bust out 20 or 30 reps of something in the 20 mins before I go to work. I've had more fun surfing and learning in the past 13 months of OMBE, and made more progress than in the 20 Years of being a weekend warrior and trying to just figure it out on my own.

Pick a brand you like and they will probably have a volume calculator. Again, I'm a Firewire guy so I use their calculator a lot and know their board catalog pretty well.

The Machado Cado model, the Mashup model would both fit your desires based on your above statement.

Again, try to find a Firewire Fleets location and rent them first. I have both of the above models and like the Cado model more, cause for some reason I like a wider nose. It just visually works for me more.