Firstly, sounds amazing!
secondly, interesting question!
I may be mistaken, but there’s an equation demonstrating that is mathmatically impossible to paddle fast enough to catch a wave over a certain size on a shortboard, so other physical forces (ie gravity) from dropping in must be used. The bigger and more powerful the wave, the faster you’d need to go to match the speed and catch it (unless you use other forces, such as gravity- and there’s more of this for grabs on a big steep wave) However, as riding guns and tow surfing demonstrates, there’s a limit to using this for bigger, more powerful, sucking waves! I’m guessing the gun enables more plaining from it’s increases surface area, but also provides more paddle speed- I imagine paddling faster is one factor that influences the equation- but if it’d be enough to make a difference, I don’t know.
Another question is, is hard paddling going to be faster (or would there just be more resistance from splashing?), or is it fast just to do some smooth strokes?
The OREO was a game changer form me too and quadrupled my wave count- esp on heavy, steeper waves. I did have this question too however, but mine was more for using the OREO for flat waves with a shortboard when gravity can’t help me much. I noticed for some of the longboard waves in Hawaii, paddling earlier or even continuing to paddle when I’d usually arch my back, glide and look down the line helped as the wave wasn’t steep enough for gravity to help me in - the glide never came and the wave never broke (it got deep again and reformed)- but maybe I was also too far back. While the steeper waves, the OREO worked a treat.
However, these werent overhead head sucking barrels by any means (more head high, steep, punchy and fun!)
I’d curious if there’s any other input!
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I’d be interested if Clayton has an input on this, if you’ve observed any 2stroke paddlers, or if anyone else has an idea.
Personally, I’m not a stickler for the 2 strokes, as on many breaks, the bus stop changes a little each wave or set (esp beach breaks) so at least a little bit of paddling around is needed (out / in ect) to be in position. I’m also not great at following rules, and 2 strokes seems a bit arbitrary to me- to me it’s tells me some speed generation is needed, but not too much- I’m taking the concept rather than the number 😂 .
As such, I can’t vouch for the 2 paddle part but would be curious if anyone else can has experience in this!
I wonder if Bethany Hamilton with a one arm paddle and good positioning is the inspiration for 2 strokes- she seems to get into anything with limited paddle power!