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Exciting Changes Ahead! 🌊We’ve restructured our footage review process to make it more beneficial for everyone. While live sessions will be on pause as we adapt to new dynamics with our two candidates, we’re thrilled to announce a fresh approach: your submissions will now be reviewed and shared here in the community!Here’s why we’re embracing this new method:✔️More Engagement: Posting reviews here encourages interaction and brings our quieter members into the conversation. Lives were limiting, as only those free at the time could participate.✔️Flexibility for Clay: With a packed schedule of retreats next year, this setup allows Clay to review submissions remotely during his downtime—ensuring faster and more consistent feedback.✔️Easier Access: Every review and takeaway will be visible to everyone, making it simpler to learn and improve without sifting through past live sessions.✔️Focused Feedback: This organized system will help you concentrate on specific areas to improve.🔔 A few reminders: • Submit one video at a time to give everyone a fair chance for feedback. • Avoid submitting distant or surf-cam footage—Clay needs clear visuals to provide effective, actionable advice.We can’t thank you enough for your support, patience, and understanding as we work through these changes together. Your willingness to adapt and grow with us means the world, and we’re so appreciative of this amazing community. 🙏P.S. I’ve added a Google sheet in the comments for tracking your submissions. If you’d like your older footage skipped, simply select “Y” in column F. This will indicate you’re uploading newer training footage. If you select “N,” Clay will proceed with reviewing your current submission. Let us know if you have any questions!
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November 07, 2024
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Project: Speed in Surfing

Introduction

Speed is the lifeblood of surfing. It allows surfers to navigate the wave’s face, perform maneuvers, and harness the wave’s energy to keep their ride alive. However, speed in surfing isn’t simply about going fast; it’s about understanding when and how to generate speed, how to maintain it, and how to avoid common pitfalls that can slow you down.

Drawing analogies from sprinting, we can break down the process of speed in surfing into phases that include acceleration, maintaining speed, and controlling movement across the wave face. Let’s dive into the mechanics of speed in surfing and explore the interplay between gravity, wave energy, and body movement.

Phase 1: Acceleration at Takeoff

Just as a sprinter launches off the starting blocks with a burst of acceleration, a surfer’s initial takeoff is all about harnessing gravity to propel down the wave. This initial drop provides a burst of speed, giving the surfer momentum to work with.

• Gravity’s Role: Gravity accelerates the surfer down the face of the wave. This force is strongest during takeoff, where it pulls the surfer downward, giving them their first taste of speed.
• Compression: At this stage, surfers should stay low, compressing their body to stabilize and control this acceleration. This low posture maximizes stability and uses the downward pull of gravity to gain momentum.

Coaching Point: “Compress to accelerate.” Emphasize the importance of staying low to harness the wave’s downward energy during takeoff. This is your burst phase, similar to a sprinter pushing out of the blocks.

Phase 2: Transitioning to Speed

Once the surfer is moving along the face of the wave, the objective shifts from acceleration to maintaining speed. This phase is about transitioning from a low, compressed stance to a taller, more extended posture that lightens the load on the board.

• Standing Taller: Just as a sprinter stands upright to maintain a sustainable stride, a surfer should extend after takeoff. This reduces drag, allowing for smooth, horizontal movement across the wave.
• Avoiding the Sinking Effect: Staying low too long causes the surfer to “sink,” or feel heavy on the board. This effect drags the surfer toward the wave’s base, causing them to lose speed. By extending, they reduce the downward force of gravity and remain light on the board.

Coaching Point: “Extend to sustain.” After the initial drop, encourage surfers to stand taller to avoid dragging down. This keeps them agile, reduces resistance, and allows them to flow with the wave’s forward energy.

Phase 3: Timing with the Wave’s Energy

To sustain speed, surfers need to move up and down the wave face in rhythm with the wave’s natural energy. This phase involves coordinating compression and extension to maintain a dynamic, flowing movement.

• Wave’s Orbital Motion: Water moves in a circular, or orbital, motion as it creates the wave, similar to a sine wave with an “even up” and “even down.” Surfing in harmony with this orbital motion is like moving in a rolling pattern, where you create speed through rhythmic compression and extension.
• Moving Up the Wave for Speed: After the drop, surfers need to return to the top of the wave to build potential energy. This motion allows them to “reset” their speed, as descending from a higher position on the wave face regenerates forward momentum.

Coaching Point: “Ride with rhythm.” Encourage surfers to think of their movements as a dance with the wave’s natural motion, going up and down to continually harness the wave’s energy and sustain speed.

Phase 4: Counteracting Gravity with Extension

Gravity, while useful for initial acceleration, is a force that surfers need to counteract to avoid losing speed. Extension becomes a powerful tool to lift the surfer above gravity’s pull, allowing them to stay high on the wave face.

• Upward Lift: Just as a sprinter lifts with each stride to counteract gravity, a surfer uses extension as an upward force to keep from sinking. By extending in sync with the wave’s upward draw, surfers align with the wave’s natural energy to stay above gravity’s slowing effect.
• Using the Rail for Lift: When surfers press down on their toe edge and engage the rail, they tap into the wave’s buoyancy. This buoyancy allows the board to “pop” back up, lifting them and maintaining speed. Timed with an upward extension, this technique helps surfers stay in control, light, and high on the wave face.

Coaching Point: “Extend with the wave’s lift.” By timing extensions with the wave’s upward pull, surfers counteract gravity, maintaining a smooth, fast ride.

Phase 5: The Balance Between Acceleration and Maintaining Speed

A crucial concept in surfing is distinguishing between acceleration and speed. Many surfers mistake initial acceleration for sustainable speed, but they’re two distinct phases. Acceleration is the burst of speed you get when gravity pulls you down the wave face, while maintaining speed is about managing movement across the wave.

• Controlled Extension vs. Compression: Compression should be minimal after takeoff to avoid sinking. Instead, the focus shifts to controlled extensions that maintain a steady flow across the wave face. This dynamic balance keeps you moving forward without losing height or momentum.
• Avoiding Over-Compression: Excessive compression can work against you by enhancing gravity’s pull, which will drag you lower on the wave. Remember, the wave’s energy gives you the forward motion, so the goal is to maintain that speed, not over-compress.

Coaching Point: “Use the wave’s energy, don’t force it.” Instead of over-compressing, focus on subtle movements that align with the wave’s energy. This keeps your ride fluid and efficient, letting the wave power your speed.

Key Insights Summary

1\. Harness Gravity Initially, Then Counteract It: Use gravity for acceleration on takeoff but shift to counteracting it by extending and moving high on the wave.
2\. Extend to Stay Light and Fluid: Transitioning from compression to extension reduces drag, allowing you to sustain speed without sinking.
3\. Ride with the Wave’s Rhythm: Embrace the wave’s orbital motion by moving up and down in a rolling flow, syncing with the wave’s natural energy.
4\. Precision in Compression and Extension: Minimal compression after takeoff and timed extension maintain a controlled, fast, and balanced ride.
5\. The Wave’s Lift Is Your Ally: Use the wave’s upward pull to counteract gravity, keeping your ride smooth, light, and fast.

Conclusion

Speed in surfing is a dynamic interplay of forces, timing, and rhythm. By understanding how to harness gravity for acceleration, extend to counteract it, and align with the wave’s orbital energy, surfers can unlock a faster, more controlled, and exhilarating ride. This journey isn’t about brute force or pushing for speed; it’s about syncing with the wave’s natural energy, moving with fluid precision, and knowing when to harness and when to release.

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November 06, 2024

About 3 months out of total hip replacement surgery. Feeling good on the Bosu and on the skateboard. Just waiting for surgeon to clear me to start surfing again!

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November 06, 2024

Dry-Land Training:

So I live is South Carolina, unfortunately the waves here are less than steller MOST of the time. As such, I try to maximize my improvement through dry land training. Wondering if there is anything Y'all do that maybe I have not thought of. I have 2 young kiddos and work full time so my time is limited but I do what I can as often as I can.

My usual training looks something like this:

Weight lift: 3x per week-squats, deadlifts, overhead presses, bench, barbell rows. It's a program called strong lifts 5x5. I like this cause it's simple being only 5 exercises and quick,5 sets of 5 with little rest in between, so I can squeeze it into 25 mins if the squat rack isn't being used.

Stretch/foam roll/ deep tissue release with golf ball or tennis ball on the in between lifting days. Use Chris mills surfstrength coaching programs for the variety of stretches/ body weight movements I can do at home. Also work on holding my oreo biscuit back arch for a few mins to improve my low back strength and flexibility.

Surfskate practice: usually do 20-30 mins a day, as long as it's not raining, after dropping my girls off at school before I head to work. Usually involves a few laps around the bowl, working on flow and compression/extension. Do about 5-10 mins in bowl, 5-10 mins on the 4' transition working on turns, 5-10 mins on the 6' banks working on my twist and passing the coffee cup and compression on the way down. (I've posted a few videos of my normal surfskate stuff In the community in the past.) If my girls want to play outside when I'm home from work I'll also skate the street (flat ground) while they scooter or ride their bikes.

Surfing: anytime I can and there are waves. Still a line 2 surfer, but since joining my pop up/walk up is no longer an issue at all. Dropped down from riding a 8' fun board to a 41L groveler to between 34 to 37L depending on waves. Now just trying to get the whole compression/extension and turning thing dialed in. Being a mushy beachbreak though most waves here are extremely short and 1 turn and done type waves.

Flowrope: added this recently but I do need to get a better rope to do it with. Using some paracord I had laying around but it feels to light so have to make a trip to get some better rope for it I think.

Videos: watched the whole of the OMBE programs probably 3 times through by now including all the video coaching sessions. I find these are actually now the most helpful as seeing Clayton's advice on other people issues helps me to figure out and correct mine. Also watch pro videos, John john, Kelly, Nathan florence, Koa rothman, Clay marzo, Mason ho are my favorites to watch, I try to watch at half speed and really pay attention to their body, head, hand positions while they rip.

At the moment that's about the extent of it. If anyone has any suggestions or things that have really helped you to improve please let me know. Surfing well is something that has been a life long goal, and luckily now I live close enough to the ocean and have an opportunity to chase that dream. Thanks in advance for any pointers or ideas.

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November 05, 2024

Hey Guys,

Thought I would post some content from the wave pool. I remember when I did this bottom turn, I felt on the edge of losing control of it. Very close to falling off. But after looking at the photo after the session I realised its probably the best bottom turn I’ve done. So I suppose it is about getting that balance right between what is a comfortable in terms of control, so you can try something new until that becomes comfortable. Have said that I haven’t managed to replicate this turn again! Well not yet anyway 🤣

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November 05, 2024

I had a question about getting out the back.
Where I surf here in South Florida its all beach breaks, and we really only get waves from wind swells. On days where it gets bigger the sets come in with virtually no lull and there is so much current that its incredibly hard to make it out the back.

I do surf right by a pier and this morning, after a couple of failed attempts to make it out the back, I watched a few more advanced surfers paddle out no problem by paddling right along the pier. They were pretty much almost touching the pylons thats how close they were. They were on the south side of the pier and the current was ripping south so it does make sense that the pylons would cut off some of that current.

I was just wondering if this is a typical thing to do and if you guys think this is something worth working on and getting used to? Or if this is just very much so specific to the conditions at my pier this morning.

Also I’m very aware that Ive been asking a lot of questions in this community lately and I’m very greatful for all of your responses!

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November 05, 2024

Surfboard storage racks. Does anyone have any recommendations for surfboard storage racks? Looking to get an 8 board rack (so I have an excuse to get more boards eventually haha!)

The obvious ones I see are:
Ecoracks.com.au - seem ok but supports look a bit on the low side for longboards (eg ~ 110cm high)
BoardRAX - looks a more polished product but the support for the tail looks very small. Several photos are of boards with tail on the edge of support or hanging off (eg see photo below)

Or am I just overthinking it! 😅
I just want to make sure my boards are stored safely and don't fall over/ get cracked tails etc

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November 05, 2024
• Edited (Nov 05, 2024)

How bad is chlorine for an epoxy board?
As per your guys advice I went out and bought a 7’2 nsp funboard as my first real board because it was time to move off my soft top. I took it out a few times while it was 1-2 foot and it was awesome, however the next few weeks here in florida are going to be a lot bigger than 1-2 so I’m going to need to seriously start working on duck diving. Can I practice in my pool or will the chlorine damage my board? Also does anyone have any other good recommendations for how to practice duck diving? (Other than the bosu push unders, Im working on the intermediate pathway so Ive already been working on those.)
Thanks guys!

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November 05, 2024

-Wetsuit question-
Hi friends, I destroyed my 10-year-old wetsuit yesterday and was wondering where you guys recycle them. Also, what's a good new model for UK winter/wave pool surfing? My old wetsuit was a back zip 5/3, but now I can see models with chest zips or even zipless, and I'm confused about the benefits of each. Can you recommend one over the other?

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November 02, 2024
• Edited (Nov 02, 2024)

This is well worth a listen. Backs up so much of the Ombe teachings.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGBxYWg-TCE

November 01, 2024

Anyone else tried to upload footage for the November live sessions? Is there a file limit? Can’t seem to be able to upload my mp4 file…Thanks all!

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